Move to end property taxes fails — for now

North Dakota voters overwhelmingly rejected a constitutional amendment that would end property taxes. But the issue is also percolating in several other states.

By Teresa at MSN Real Estate Jun 15, 2012 11:36AM

North Dakota decided this week not to become the first state to eliminate property taxes.

 

But the issue is unlikely to die. The backers of the state measure have vowed to bring it up again, and talk of eliminating property tax is stirring in several other states, too.

 

"No tax should have the power to leave you homeless," Jim Cox, a state representative who has filed a bill to eliminate the school property tax in Pennsylvania, told The New York Times.

 

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Ending property taxes has also been discussed in Texas and North Carolina.

Advocates of eliminating property taxes argue that the tax makes homeowners perpetual renters and that their homeownership is dependent on the actions of local governments. People who can't pay those taxes lose their homes. You can see the property tax rates in various states here.

The flip side, of course, is that if cities and counties no longer have property-tax revenues to run schools, libraries, police departments and other municipal services, they are going to have to find the money somewhere. The real-estate bust has left many municipalities struggling to make ends meet as tax collections have declined with property values.

 

"I would like to be able to know that my home, no matter what happens to my income or my life, is not going to be taken away from me because I can’t pay a tax," Susan Beehler, who advocated the end to the property tax in North Dakota, told The Times.

But, as Alison Rogers of Time's Moneyland pointed out, rising property taxes aren't the only reason a homeowner could lose a home. She writes: "This argument, of course, neglects to acknowledge that a citizen could just as easily be forced to sell his or her home to pay escalating income or sales tax bills."

 

What do you think? Is eliminating property taxes a good idea?

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I agree to get rid of the property taxes. People  pay the tax then are charged a fee for fire and sherrif services. I pay a monthly house payment of 485, and monthly property tax of 230. Now when my house is paid off the property tax will be as high as house payment now in 20 some years the way it is heading. On that tax bill is a public transportation tax of 100 per year. I live in a rural area 25 miles from a major city(Toledo,Ohio). Now come on. I have to call 24 hours in advance to get picked up 3 miles from my home.Then pay transfer fees(.85) to transfer from bus to bus to get to destination. Service not avaible 24 hours,will take hours to get to destination.  Hardly ever see local (township) police, ems or fire dept at any of the accidents on my street(and there are plenty)that my taxes go to. Takes 20 minutes or more for services to get here from 4 miles away at the soonest. Could be dead or house burnt down before that. 
Jun 23, 2012 4:52AM
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Why should homeowners foot the bill for schools? Renters have children too and they can send them to public school for free. If you own a home and have no children you pay for the schools anyway. Add a tax to things we all need or privatize schools. There is a better way.
Jun 23, 2012 3:37AM
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To stop beating around the bush, EVERYONE hates property tax BUT the funding for the services financed by our property taxes has to come from somewhere.  It will not be any cheaper to pay regardless of where we are taxed.  Government spending has run out of control over the past (at least) 20 years and someone sold the brake pads.  Our infrastructure has crumbled and the reserves designated for the maintenance and repair were siphoned away into someone's "special interest" pork project.  We need to drill down, get to the foundation of these problems and begin our rebuilding and repairs there.
Jun 23, 2012 3:34AM
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Governments love RE taxes for the same reason they love income taxes. They are secure and easy to collect.
The taxes on someone's home is not defensible.The thought of losing your home, to pay taxes should cause immediate revolution.

Jun 23, 2012 3:31AM
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So, what do we call the new tax to replace the property tax?

Do we break it down?
School Trust Tax

Library Trust Tax

Police Department Trust Tax

Other Municipal Services Tax...Garbage Collection Tax

 

Or do we rename it...Community Support Tax.

 

I likey.

Jun 23, 2012 3:25AM
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Of course renters "pay" property taxes, albeit indirectly, it is included in their monthly rental fee.  No  landlord is going to out-of-pocket finance that bill for his tenants.  The only entities who do not pay a property tax (in IL) are government owned (not leased for profit) property, qualified charitable and religious organizations.  These entities are not automagically tax exempt, but must first make an application which is processed through the local county assessors' office then forwarded on to the state dept of revenue before allowed or denied    
Jun 23, 2012 3:21AM
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I live in Tn. Most people like my self are workin hard just to hang on to our homes.my property taxes went up for 2011.I had to make payments for the frist time sence I've owened my home.with one payment left.The property tax hurts  most of us,and I feel like its wrong.People who rent dont pay it,so why should home owners ?
Jun 23, 2012 2:53AM
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I am also a homeowner and would benefit from no property tax. I live in PA and the property taxes are not bad. I came from Connecticut where taxes are some of the highest in the country. On my 1700sf house on 3 acres in PA I pay about 3500 a year. Where in CT my daughter and her husband are building a 1900sf home and will be paying near 8-10,000 a year for taxes with the added bonus of a yearly car tax.

I'm also a school district employee (not a teacher) and am wondering where the money would come from to pay for education, EMS, FD, PD and other vital services that we depend on to be there when needed. Maybe with out the stress of property taxes more people could afford to purchase a home and maintain it, business owners could expand and create more jobs in turn selling more cars, gas, food and services.

Jun 23, 2012 2:25AM
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I agree that property taxes as they stand now, is a dis-service to communities across the USA. Either everyone whether renters, or homeowners should have a levy on their places of residence to cover services rendered in their areas, including our schools, or no one should pay.Otherwise, homeownership will always be the riskiest financial venture for citizens, and renters will always have the advantage to receive municipal services on the backs of homeowners. Even the playing field.

Jun 22, 2012 11:29PM
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Eliminate property taxes.  Instead, let everyone who benefits from a town's services chip in together to pay for them throgh a local sales tax levied by the town or, better yet, the county.  

 

And let's not forget that property taxes also include school taxes which are generally higher than county and local taxes combined.  Let schools receive their funding via an additional state sales tax, with the money divided up among school districts based on their headcounts.  

Jun 22, 2012 11:04PM
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I think its a wonderful idea to eliminate property tax as it stands....that is to forfiet your home if you cant make the property payment at the end of each year! Instead the private sector could fulfill this need and actually add more jobs for people in each district by adding a fee or tax to goods purchased or raise the state tax that we already have....stocks, bonds or some other way to raise money for local needs, like PBS does.We need to find a way so people will never be homeless again, its not an option...its our right to buy a home and be able to keep it. 
Jun 22, 2012 10:15PM
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Why would someone need to sell their home for escalating income or sale tax bills?   Income tax is based on the amount on income made, so the funds are always available to pay that tax.  No income, no tax charge.  Very simple.  Same with sales tax.  You don't buy stuff, you don't pay the tax.  It's a "choice" tax.  Cut down on purchased goods to cut down on sales tax paid.  If you can't afford the sales tax on purchased goods, then don't purchase those goods.  This is not the case for property tax.  Even when you are done paying the amount you owe on the property, you are still responsible for tax.  For as long as you own the property.  It's not  a tax.  It's a fee.  For owning property.  Call it what it is. 

 

What a stupid argument this article pretends to make. 

Jun 22, 2012 3:46AM
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Yes that will help people keep the property they living in.
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Teresa Mears

Teresa Mears is a veteran journalist who has been interested in houses since her father took her to tax auctions to carry the cash at age 10. A former editor of The Miami Herald's Home & Design section, she lives in South Florida where, in addition to writing about real estate, she publishes Miami on the Cheap to help her neighbors adjust to the loss of 60% of their property value.

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