Few borrowers seek foreclosure reviews

Only 4% of the more than 4 million eligible homeowners have asked to have their foreclosure cases reviewed. Some say the letter is confusing, but others believe homeowners are cynical.

By Teresa at MSN Real Estate May 21, 2012 12:38PM

© Ariel Skelley/Getty ImagesNearly six months after 4.1 million homeowners were offered independent reviews of their foreclosure cases, only about 165,000, about 4%, have accepted the offer.

 

The reviews were part of a deal made last year involving 14 loan servicers and the Federal Reserve, the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, the Office of Thrift Supervision and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. in the wake of the robo-signing scandal. If a review finds that a homeowner suffered financially because of improper foreclosure practices, the homeowner could receive compensation ranging from several hundred to thousands of dollars.

 

Why haven't more borrowers sought reviews? Suggestions range from the form of the letters sent by federal banking regulators offering the reviews to misunderstanding to homeowner cynicism, since the reviewers are hired by the banks.

 

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"They are really jaded by what's going on," lawyer Tiffany Norman told The San Francisco Chronicle. "Most of the people were trying to get a loan modification for a couple years; they turned in the same documents over and over. They don't really think the courts or the banks are going to do anything to help them, even though they say it's independent."

The reviews are free, but borrowers have to submit a five-page form to get one. The original deadline of April 30 has been extended to July 31, and regulators are planning another mailing to eligible homeowners in June.

To qualify for the foreclosure review, the homeowners must have had a primary residence in the foreclosure process between Jan. 1, 2009, and Dec. 31, 2010. In addition, the loan would have to have been serviced by one of the 14 servicers that were part of the settlement, which include Bank of America, Chase, Citibank, GMAC Mortgage, Wells Fargo and most other major servicers. More details are at the Independent Foreclosure Review site.

One of those who didn't bother to request a review was Pamela Hall of San Leandro, Calif., who has been trying to get a loan modification for 2 1/2 years. "I figured, why waste my time?" she told The Chronicle. "Filling out paperwork hasn't worked so far."

 

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Jun 30, 2012 4:09PM
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Really...the paperwork and the b.s. from the banks were what propelled me to sell my  house.  Nobody at the bank really tried very hard to assist me.  I even used a Loan Modification Group sanctioned by the state of NJ to assist me with the process..nothing.  Big fat 0.  I sent the same paperwork over and over to CHASE BANK.  Again, nothing but a bunch of clueless,  butt munching, mindless ****s who could care less.  That was back in 08 when I knew I better try to do the responsible thing and work things out with my bank (the one that bought my mortgage).  Well, what goes around comes around my friends...

Jun 30, 2012 3:49PM
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i filed...figure it'll be like the loan mod..after asking for the same bs 1500 times will get told ain't nothing we can do for you.  house was gone in 2010....
Jun 30, 2012 2:53PM
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Over 2 years ago, I did go bankrupt with my mortgate.  I jumped through all of  the bankruptcy hoops, and hired an attorney who was paid in full.  My mortgage was with BOA.  My bankruptcy (Chapter 7) was released by the Federal Bankruptcy court in Feb. of 2010,  I am still receiving phone calls, nasty letters and threats of judgements my BOA, through their collection agency called ReContrust. 

 

Calls to attorney have done no good.  Calls to the bank have told me that they have no record of my bankruptcy.  When calling the bankruptcy dept.. of BOA, I am told that they know that I have been released from my bankruptcy. however, these calls, letters etc., are just to let me know the status, that as far as I am concerned is no longer my house, is just to let me know the status of the situation.  GO FIGURE.  BOA forclosed on homes that they should not have, and will not leave the people that took every legal precaution alone.   To say that I am frustated is an understatement.

Jun 30, 2012 11:05AM
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How to stop foreclsure with a single question to your banker you simple ask one question should the one who funded the loan be repaid the money? If they answer Yes or No, the bank must forgive the loan and zero out the debt.
Jun 30, 2012 8:59AM
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I have been working in the foreclosure/modification field for almost 8 years until I was laid off from my job as a Modification Specialist for a non profit company. This whole nightmare was due to the banks that we bailed out with the TARP money. The rich weren't rich enough so they started taking advantage of the people who were laid off and downsized to get richer!!! I always thought that Charity began at Home, well the United States of American only has Charity for Foreign Countries. We will never be treated with dignity or respect by this country. Cannot blame anyone who ignores those letter because they have learned from the past experiences that they have been put thru with these lying banks and investors. God Bless you America because we need all the help we can get to survive the lies and deceit this country has bestowed on us all.
Jun 30, 2012 6:25AM
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After being placed in a forebarance agrement we were told that at the end of the sixth month they would have our mod. done and would not have to make the ten thousand dollar ballon payment, low and behold the whole time they were making foreclosure procedings. After being asked to send all of our financial docs. three times they finally just stopped all contact. Then our loan was sold to metlife and we were contacted by a rep who stated " if he was a betting man he would bet the house that our mod will get done" we never heard back! Lost the house in july of 2010. After having paid over 200,000 on the loan the bank collects on the mortgage insurance, and then turns around and sells the house for 100,000 less than we owed making it look like it is a great deal the whole time win,  win, winning, by taking our money, the insurance money, and the new home owners monies, what a scam. every personthat has lost a home should be trying for this review because there is the possiblity that the banks cant sell the home until the review is finished. maybe it will in a round about way be us screwing the banks!!!
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THE BANKS ARE CROOKS AND THEY HAVE BEEN PAID. THE HOUSE IS WORTH 400K BOUGHT IT FOR 600K AND BANK FEES AND LOAN UP TO 900K TO PAY BACK ..........WHAT THE HELL IS THIS ....NOT TO TALK ABOUT ALL THE LENDERS OUT THEIR THAT ARE FRAUDULENT CALLING AND SENDING PAPERS TO TRY AND FORCE YOU INTO  A LOAN DEAL ...I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE THE LOAN I LOCATED ANYMORE.... TO PAY IT...

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the Banks have had their day now  give the American people their day......Close the loans and zzero out the balances send the deeds to the owner.......

They are just adding on nterest and late payment to drive up the loan ad thepay back

This is wrong the have asked that we pay taxes to help them wih he loans we did now they want to keep the houses and plus charge more interest ....WHAT IS THIS A 60K HOME IS NOW IN BACKUP TO 900 AND THE WANT YOU TO PAY IT AT 2% ...WELL TAKE THE TAX MONEY AND PAY IT

Jun 22, 2012 11:38AM
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Ok we sit here and bitch and moan. Now that said we really do need to get together and stand up for our rights(hmmmmm what rights)and let these banks know we won't take anymore of their s--t. Don't buy houses, don't use cc,don't buy cars unless you buy the stuff with your own money. When u think about it a house is a ripoff anyways.............(ie) if you paid $ 50,000 for a house 20 years ago and  you sold it yesterday for  $ 60,000 , you made $10,000............No you didn't, when you think about it you paid $50,000 at 5% interest over 20 years(this is compounded simply and is not very accurate)so that is $2,500.00/yr(yes i know it would drop lower every year)which over the life of the loan would be another $50,000.00, so your home has now cost you $100,000 not counting any expenses or fixing up. so that if you did sell it for $60,000 you are only racking up a $40,000.00 + loss. What a deal!!!!!   RENT!
Jun 22, 2012 8:21AM
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BECAUSE i AM NOT A LAWYER, ANYTHING i SAY HERE IS NOT TO BE TAKEN AS LEGAL ADVICE.

 

One big reason why people are not jumping at the offer to have their loan reviewed is, that they would be acknowledging that the bank/servicer is the lender in due course when in fact in the majority of cases they are not the actual lender AND HAVE NO RIGHT TO BRING A FORECLOSURE LAW SUIT.

 

Another reason why a loan modification is not the route to take is...  If by some remote chance, and I mean very remote  chance it is approved, the bank would be requiring you to complete new loan documents which would automatically supercede and delete all of your old loan (original) documents, which may, and in most cases will contain violations by the lender, which if contested by the homeowner would more often than not get their foreclosure case dismissed by the court.

 

Here is a point to ponder... Why would the banks be interested in entertaining a loan modification with someone they already know that can't pay?  Why would they even go to the trouble of approving a loan modification with someone who already has a bad credit rating which the bank helped create through their foreclosure action or other credit rating flaws? 

 

Even if they approved a loan modification the amout of reduction in your monthly payments would be so insignificant that you would end up going back into foreclosure again.  Only this time when the borrower goes into foreclosure he would have to fight against CLEAN loan documents which guarrantee that he will lose his case.

 

I will answer my own questions for you, its for the reasons I mentioned above, it is so that they can effectively eliminate FLAWED and FRAUDULENT original loan documents that the homeowner has against them if they chose to contest the banks foreclosure process.

 

Some of the more informed home owners are filing motions to dismiss and then letting the law firm for the lender set an appearance date which more often than not takes months for them to do.  If the lenders law firm does not set an appearance date they run the risk of the foreclosure being dismissed under the courts own motion for lack of prosecution.

 

Some homeowners are even declaring bankruptcy and filing their home as an unsecured asset.  When they do that, the lender has to contest your claim and prove to the bankruptcy court that your home is a secured asset.   They won't want to do that because they already know that they have flawed loan documents as well as not even having the right to foreclose in the first place because they don't actually own your loan.   BELIEVE IT OR NOT, FOR THOSE HOMEOWNERS WHO CHOOSE TO FIGHT, THEY WILL FIND THAT THEY ARE IN THE DRIVERS SEAT.

Jun 22, 2012 7:58AM
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BB&T forclosed while i was in foreberance , i asked icc about review and they stated they are not on the list - if i brought weapons in do you think they'd listen ???? I can get a water pistol at the dollar store ....
Jun 22, 2012 7:54AM
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How sad, all these stories. All I wanted was to keep my home, I had lost everything in a flood earlier the year bought my house. I had lived in a rental that was not in a flood area, like a dummy I had no renters insurance. I have been a single mother raising four children so I have always worked but never had a lot financially, like most just from check to check but we got by and were happy. I was in my late forties when I bought my house, it took every penny I had and I didn't have much to move into it but was thrilled to have a 'home'. When my vehicle broke down and I had to get a different one I couldn't afford the car payment, even tho it was't huge, and a house payment. I tried to get Chase to work with me. The first response from them was no problem all they'd have to do was lower the percentage rate....went from bad to worse, months and months of jumping through every hoop they threw at me, calling, faxing, wrirting, I did it all falling further and further behind. I should have just turned title back to them and walked away but like a dummy I fought to the bitter end... and lost, lost again. I ended up living in a dump of a rental for the same amount each month my payment would have been lowered to. I had explained to them over and over I would have to pay the same in rent as for the lower house payment, why not give me the chance to prove it and they would never sell the house for what I owed on it. Now in my mid fifties, still single and barely squeaking by they want me to repay the whole loan..... The really sad part for most of us is they never intended to work with us.I think they had such a mess going on they couldn't tell one loan from another and didn't want to try. They just put us through all the crap to make it look like they were doing something from their side. And can I prove all of this as they require now, how do you prove what they did and said. Our words against theirs. I hope at least some of you have won or will win and get to keep your homes. I hope the person who bought my mine, for next to nothing, truly enjoys it. It was a nice little place. God bless you all.
Jun 22, 2012 7:45AM
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Thought I would be surprised reading these stories and I Figured MY story was new and different. Ya know what my story is not new and different and i wasn't surprised by anyone else's story.....SOS..............It is going to keep on being the SOS until people get really tired of it and do something..............I for one am really tired of being screwed by the banks and the government and the used car sales man(why not throw him in)

 

Look on the internet for different stories you would be surprised what they do if a home goes or is close to going into foreclosure and the fine print Damn!. Look up somone named Katakis(sp) look what he did along with  B of A and he is still doing it.  If I did what he is doing I would be shot and I do believe he is just a B of A flunky. He is being indicted or going to trial  but he'll probably get off

Jun 22, 2012 7:28AM
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The idea there is help for foreclosed people is false.  The banks are NOT interested in helping, only giving people the runaround.  The government has set the tone for this ridiculousness and really doesn't monitor any of the mazes the banks set for their victims.

 

Stop giving press to this monkey business.  It only gives people false hope. 

 

If you're foreclosed, your best bet is to go bankrupt and put the screws back to the banks.

Jun 22, 2012 7:19AM
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Well, our problem was that we built our house through a builder that went bankrupt.  He took out a loan to build our house that was 52% of our income.  Even though I knew we couldn't make the payments at the time the lawyers in the room told us we had to sign the papers and it was our problem (have since found out this wasn't true).  Then the builder my husband worked for went bankrupt and by getting a job with a new company he lost $30,000 a year.  Then he was diagnosed with Cancer and could no longer work field assignments so his pay was cut in half.  We got our "refinance" offer from the Mortgage Company last week (after requesting one for 2 1/2yrs and it put us into a 40 yr loan and raised our monthly payment by $300.  How is that supposed to work?  We couldn't make the payment when he made $30,000 more how are we supposed to make it now when when he makes less and it is $300 more.  They don't even try to help you. 
Jun 22, 2012 7:16AM
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We tried to modify a loan on our home and the bank would NOT, Because we were not behind in our mortgage yet. So this is BS that they will reveiw or modify a loan, THEY WILL NOT DO IT. They told us we will have to go into forclosure first and then they may do something. They did nothing for us. They wanted the property back to resell it. A loan we payed on for 15 years, 20% down and all. Loss of work sucks...So do the banks that got all the injection money (BILLIONS) and did nothing for us but screw us.....

Jun 22, 2012 7:13AM
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I sold my home as a short sale while I was in forclosure. I heard now lenders are giving financial inscentives to homeowners who sell short sales. I should have waited.

Jun 22, 2012 7:02AM
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The problem is we need everyone who was wronged by banking tactics to come forth and sue the sh-t out of them .................all of them. I am suing Bof A but unfortunately for me they are a lot bigger than just I am and I am losing this battle...........

Judges don't want to buck them!

  They have more money than god so when they get fined they sit back and laugh.  They lie(what a surprise).............

They make up the rules as they go along

They skirt the laws.  Their truly are 2 sets of laws, one for them and one for us and that why us 'lil people' scratch our heads when a judge throws something out if B oif A did it but if you did it he throws you in jail

Anyone want to get a class action going , look me up! seriously

Jun 22, 2012 6:54AM
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Yeah it is your/my promissory note but............................no one except for an elite few saw that the housing market was going to  do what it did & with such force.The numbers are staggering, almost as if it were planned  I understand that I/you signed the note and if I don't pay you will do what it is you got to do and once again but............there werr/are so many shady crooked deals and the banks don't really seem to mind the foreclosures because they get to sell everything all over again. This is what it looks like to me and people that paid PMI, why didn't they get to keep their house after a default, they paid the PMI.    I wouldn't mind if I sold you a car but you also bought insurance(PMI) that if you can't make the payments the insurance would make the payments and then I would also get the car back only to resell it. What a deal. Now tell me who won and who lost this housing deal and was it not all planned?
Jun 22, 2012 6:29AM
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The problem I have with this is that at the beginning of the foreclosure process, I told the bank I was having difficulty and they didn't want to help me because I wasn't completely broke and destitute. Then when things fell apart, they stepped in and for over two years I kept having to take off time from work because of delays and continuances. Then, when the economy came back and my pay and hours came back, they said I could now make the payments (even though I could barely make them because I didn't get my full hours back) and so they took the payments and court costs that I didn't make in two years and tacked it on to the end, left the rate at 6.375% and gave me a 40 year mortgage. It's like the bank knew what was happening and waited it out to screw me over. Why did I stay? Because you have to live somewhere. I just thought the bank was going to help me.
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Teresa Mears

Teresa Mears is a veteran journalist who has been interested in houses since her father took her to tax auctions to carry the cash at age 10. A former editor of The Miami Herald's Home & Design section, she lives in South Florida where, in addition to writing about real estate, she publishes Miami on the Cheap to help her neighbors adjust to the loss of 60% of their property value.

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