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Jun 23, 2014 7:21PM
Bike jedi,
I'll answer you here so that our relative arguments can be weighed by all who read these posts. Let me start by saying that I know little about the government of Illinois except to say that it has a national reputation for being politically corrupt no matter which party happens to be in power there. A fact that I'm sure is more to blame for the state's current fiscal woes than its prevailing ideology. The other relevant political fact about Illinois is that despite the dominance of the state Democratic party, The people of Illinois are not know as particularly Liberal. In order to speak to my point in commenting on the above article, I would like to reference my home state of Washington as an example of a truly Liberal stronghold that is leaving all of the red state hell holes in the dust when it comes to quality of life for it's citizens. 
Washington is represented on the federal level by two Liberal Democratic female Senators, and boasts a number of influential, Liberal members of the House of Representatives. Our Governor is a Liberal Democrat, our State Legislature is majority Democrat. We have passed marriage equality, legal marijuana, and death with dignity laws and, so far, no one has been struck down by God for doing so.
Seattle is our largest City, it's Mayor is openly Gay, a prime city council member is an avowed socialist, our new police chief is a woman. Everyone who has a job working within the city limits, is allowed by law, two weeks a year off work (unpaid unless the employer agrees to pay), to care for their own, or a loved one's illness. The Washington State minimum wage of about ten dollars an hour is set to go to fifteen dollars an hour in Seattle over the next two years or so. Seattle has recently been cited as having the fastest growing economy of any city in America. There are parks, public entertainment, and a long list of varied and vigorous community events that make for a happy healthy, low crime, high opportunity environment. To top it off, The rather secular, not so religious people of Seattle where just recognized collectively as the most generous contributors to charity in the entire nation. Now, I don't expect that anyone dedicated to Jesus, and profit as their end all, be all ideology should simply take my word for the facts I just presented. I want you to verify these things, and then be humble. You loud mouthed red state no-nothing morons really need to be quiet and pay attention to how it's done. In voting strictly for "guns gays, and God, over the years  you've put yourselves so far behind, that you need to do all the catching up that you can, just to stay in the game.
Jun 23, 2014 2:42PM
All you have to do is ASK ANYONE who works in the Private Sector and lives in Illinois . We are sick of paying for the Public Unions just so they and the Dems can decide how they are going to bend us over and use our money .. Is there any surprise that Business and productive Tax Payers are leaving in a mass exodus ? Illinois lost over 60,000 payroll jobs in 2014 and we are second in the Nation in OUT MIGRATION
Jun 23, 2014 6:52AM
Is there no amount of hard evidence such as these simple statistics that show clearly, the failure of their conservative culture that will ever cause these knuckleheaded  dim wits to wake up? I think not. Brainwashed is brainwashed, they simply choose to lead sort and brutish lives that serve no one but the authoritarian money changers and modern day fundamentalist Christian Pharisees who view them a pawns rather then fellow citizens. From the cradle to the grave kept ignorant and dependent by the low level of education the dominates their substandard schools that have been purposely gutted by tax cutting. Add to this the lies and indoctrination they are subject to every Sunday morning in their "fire and brimstone" temples of ignorance called fundamentalist Christian Churches, and you've got the recipe for making a continuous string of ignorant red necks into the foreseeable future. Oh, I fear for the future of America!
Jun 22, 2014 3:59PM
Big cities are supposed to be better for the environment. Mainly because everything is closer. Apparently it is more expensive also. Also NYC has rent control for over 60 per cent of its apartments. NYC taxes pay for a lot of freebies in the city. My son was paid 3 thousand a month with a place to stay. Everything was expensive there..
Jun 22, 2014 2:30PM
To Liberal Hero:  Your name is an oxymoron.
Jun 22, 2014 2:29PM
I wouldn't live in any of the expensive cities.  The only cheap one I would consider is Pueblo.
Jun 22, 2014 8:36AM
Yep, you bone headed excuse makers best crank up the google machine, and try coming up with some new, knee jerk, right wing, born again, republican tea party BS to counter this latest set of truths that disprove your ridiculous ideology. Or, you could just admit to yourself, at least that for all these years, you've been dead wrong about what it takes to make it in America. Yeah, like that's gonna happen!
Jun 22, 2014 8:01AM
Since when is Pueblo, CO known for it;s green cfhile? New Mexico is renowned for its chile crops
and dishes.
Jun 22, 2014 7:17AM
The areas with great locations, I've noticed over the years,  have more serial killers that 90% of the planet's other countries. The idyllic, beautiful areas of Washington State, Oregon, California, Florida, and now Colorado -- (even Canada is killing paradise now) -- you are welcome to it!
Jun 22, 2014 7:07AM
Well I know first hand about some of this.  I used to live in Memphis, 3 blocks off Beal ST. in a high rise apt bldg.  You had to furnish your own phone but everything else (laundry, pool, courts, basement storage, satellite tv) were furnished for $550.00 per month.  I transferred to Portland Or, took a $6.00 hr pay cut and  the same type of apt on the Willamette river, $2500.00 per mo, nothing else furnished.  Memphis does have a higher murder rate but Portland aint no sweet spot either. 7 incidents of tool theft and vehicle break ins in 5 years for me.  Cops NEVER FOUND ONE TOOL or caught one person!  I'll take Memphis any day.
Jun 22, 2014 7:01AM
The US CENSUS reports are the best source for raw data, and the best summaries of their data. But I don't believe they get into religions prevalent in an area -- and to me that is very indicative. 
Jun 22, 2014 6:55AM
These articles are just useless,
But I'd move where there are fewest organized criminals, in uniform or out, in robes or out. I hate criminals, especially official, paid, criminals, with all my soul.
Jun 22, 2014 6:30AM
Never trust any articles, newspapers, or commercials on the t.v.. What a joke!  You better to save your money in your pockets.
Jun 22, 2014 6:28AM
These articles must be written by the Flat Earth Society.
Jun 22, 2014 6:17AM
They didn't do the research, it's like some tourism board paid them to put them on a list
Jun 22, 2014 6:16AM
Detroit is cheaper than any of these and I think it still qualifies as a 'city'. Buffalo too. WHo pays for these lists?
Jun 22, 2014 5:23AM
It all depends on where YOU want to live and not some article as posted by MSN.  I'm not sure where MSN gets their data like population and salary, but usually their stats are way off.  In addition, these cities are not the only places to live with a low or a high cost of living.  I realize they can't list every city in America, but their choices are not where I would choose to live anyway.
Jun 22, 2014 5:19AM
I have to say, south Texas is a great place to live.  Warm winters, close too the ocean, low crime in most places.  As long as you don't live right on the beach, cost of living is much lower there than say Florida or California.  But, you better learn to Habla if you want to live there.  The further south you get the worse it is.  And you can't get much further south in Texas than Harlingen/Mcallen. 
Jun 22, 2014 4:17AM
I would like to move to texas for retirement but I don't speak the language. Unbelievable what the Dems and the union welfare takers have done to this country. "They sell their souls for for a few pieces of silver."   
Jun 22, 2014 4:13AM
Where's Detroit?  It's very cheap (though it may cost your life).
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