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Sep 1, 2012 1:06AM
I totally disagree with the choices made on where is the best place to raise a family.  Enterprise, Alabama has been named the 5th most patriotic city in America, the cost of living is lower than most of your choices, and we are a 1 hour drive to Panama City, Florida and the beaches.  Are school system is very demanding of students to progress to the next grade.  No "Free-Bee's" here.  Our high school is the most modern in the entire state and our football stadium is nearly a collegiate level and the life-line of our our community.  Here in the South, we live football, its not just a game.  Hunting and fishing is plentiful.  Fort Rucker military installation is just minutes away.  We are  a small but very content country community.  But most of all, we have over 60 different and nearly all denominatiions of religious choice.  To us, God, Country, and family is truly a way of life, not just a catchy phrase.  We do raise our children as God meant for us to do.  We have the lowest crime rate in the State.  What more is there for family living.
Mar 21, 2011 8:58PM
I have to agree with niptuck barbie. I spent 2 years there and could not wait to leave.  I was pleased with the education my children was getting but had a hard time dealing with my children having to attend school with 8 foot chain link fencing for security. Scottsdale is **** to the world unless you have a boat load of money. Great place to visit but absolutely horrible to live in.
Feb 26, 2011 3:59AM
I found the best thing to do for retirement is to move out of the U.S. where my money still means something. I have good health care, very low rent & good clean air. No tax, low crime and good food! . . . . . . I moved to Thailand. There are a lot of Americans here to keep me company. BTW....I hated Arizona too!
Jan 21, 2011 7:00PM
Niptuck_Barbie and all the others that are not sheep as she is: I lived on the west coast for 26yrs and moved to MD because a family member needed help, as a single mother who has raised 3 children on my salary, it's hard and it's not the state you're in that brings out the bigotry, they are everywhere and wherever you end up moving to, you hope for the best in schools ,jobs,and when it's time to retire. Since I was forced to retire at the age of 38 due to a work inj that lead to multiple spinal surgeries, I can attest to the only good thing about MD is the history surrounding us! I'm 25miles from the White House ,and I was at my kids schools picking them up when 9/11 happened, I was working only a couple miles from where they caught the DC sniper, and all of you that are thinking that's horrible, well I lived through my share of earthquakes in CA, the Nightstalker, and gangs. So it really comes down to you as to whether your kids are gonna hang w/ the kids doing drugs, being bullies or becoming outstanding citizens! My 2 sons and my daughter all enlisted into the Marine Corp, so I think I did a damn good job raising them, so how many of you out there are gonna blame where you're living for your problems? And Niptuck_Barbie, all my children are Caucasians of hispanic decent, so w/ your racist attitude, no wonder you're having a hard time!!!!! And FYI, I was making almost $20 an hr and my job was part time......
Jan 21, 2011 1:38PM
 Arizona, sheesh. I hate this place. Idiot politicians, no water. But hey if you feel the need I have a place I want to move. Help me get out of here.
Dec 4, 2010 11:07PM
Niptuck_Barbie: I hope you realize that moving to Vegas or Cali will not solve any of the "problems" you listed!!!  ... And I'm guessing by your nick name that Phoenix isn't the only disappointment you've wanted to change.
Dec 4, 2010 9:39PM

San Antonio really? Good luck finding a job that pays more than $8 an hour?

Dec 4, 2010 8:49PM
I see so much ignorance, and is so easy for anyone to point fingers at anything, seriously, go get a life and if u dnt like wer u live at go on somewhere else, all people can do is complain.... grow up, handle your business, every city is gona have issues, drug dealin is everywhere... lol, man,... theres all knds of issues the governments trying to solve, but in the end its all based on popular sovereighnty. as a political science major, i care for our politics but its the people who dont participate, or open up their minds to how to go about solving these issues.
Dec 4, 2010 8:13PM
Phoenix is awful. Full of mexicans and drugs and favor to the mexicans for help with anything...Scottsdal​e is worse, they treat people like crap unless they are white, blonde hair, and have a lot of money with a Mercedes or versace clothes, The whole state is a joke, been here for 10 years, planning to move to Vegas or Cali because at least they treat people like people and not by their wallet. Single moms who struggle get treated like crap and no opportunity either due to the rich white mom or the illegal mexican.....twisted state and is cheap for a reason. 
Dec 4, 2010 7:45PM
Illegals.....drug smugglers, stealing cars, gang members and  fill our jails   At best, they go to our schools, use our hospitals, etc.  $$ for free.    don't pay taxes  .  It is a known  fact; many killings are done  illegals.   
Dec 4, 2010 7:41PM

"Republicans keep giving tax break to riches who are moving to Dubai and eliminate middle class as they reason and do not vote for republicans."


Ummm...duh...OK...what else should I do.  How does this relate to the story...Oh yeah, it doesn't.  Let me help you...


I lived in Vegas for a while during the bottomed out market.  Believe it or not, it had nothing to do with Republicans or Dubai.  It had to do with a free market and banks trying to cash in along with individuals who were allowed to stretch their limits on housing through very "creative" financing.  So vote however you feel you need to, but just making silly statements about politics and why everyone should think the way you do is mind-numbing.

Dec 4, 2010 7:29PM

I lived in Phoenix 30 yrs and watched it boom. I moved in 2003 to Montana and now my friends are buying homes that were outrageous in price for about 40% less. Just packed up my best friend and she sold her place here for quite a bit more than she spent for a very nice looking home in Phoenix. I have been gone quite awhile but all my friends down there claim the are selling quite low down there.

I like tyhe mountains and the four seasons. I lived in that hell hole for too long. Country girl at heart!

Dec 4, 2010 7:28PM
The prices go up and down, but for next 20 years they will not go up unless Chinese start moving in instead of Mexicans and bring pot load of money to manufacture here using cow boys and other cheap labor? It can happen, if Republicans keep giving tax break to riches who are moving to Dubai and eliminate middle class as they reason and do not vote for republicans. So the cow boys, red necks and Rush Limbaugh and Sarah Palin's followers and Jack the plumber will work for chinese Industrialists. hehehe
Dec 4, 2010 7:10PM

Recently visited friends in Sun Lakes,  South of Phonix.  Great place to visit. Some

awesome homes for 129,000.  Would love to have a home like that somewhere

else.  Born and raised on the East Coast and the desert just doesn't do it. 

If I hit the lottery tonight, I believe I would buy a home there.

Dec 4, 2010 6:48PM

I would hope people take market influences into account for every area they consider and realize that what drove prices up in areas like the outskirts of Phoenix and many other areas will not be likely to do so again.


Real Estate demand revolves around hu****uch as New York City and Los Angeles as examples. Port towns and areas where there is heavy demand to live and do business are the most stable and will almost always be the 1st to rise in price and last to fall as well as usually not falling as far.


Phoenix and surrounding areas are very much like Las Vegas in that they are land locked and far from the 1st choice of where people  chose to live. Not that they don't have appeal but the demand is but a fraction of NYC or LA.


When real estate prices in Phoenix and surrounding areas went up in price dramaticly it was a result primarily of overflow from more desirable areas and a part of the investment boom that had people buying homes like hot stocks.


Bottom line is that any market that is driven by financing will fall when financing becomes more restricted due tighter qualifying standards and higher rates. Couple that with a Job Market bubble that was doomed to burst and you have were we are now and heading south.  



Dec 4, 2010 6:29PM
Yes, Florence is beautiful and retirement homes on the outskirts of Phoenix are your best bet.
Dec 4, 2010 6:27PM
One thing to point out is the article is focused on retirement property.  The reason being is that the housing industry here in Phoenix has not stabilized yet. Prices are still somewhat on the decline.  Your monthly payments would be low but you should not expect the value of your home to increase yet.  Of course, it may in the future but that remains to be seen.  Another thing to consider is the areas in which the lower priced homes are available are also areas whose values have been and still are severly affected by the housing crash.  Vacated and damaged properties which don't help with the increase of home values.  Investors have been buying up these auctioned off properties by the handfuls and flipping them into the homes you would be buying at the prices quoted in the article.  Having personal experience working with these investors and being in the home industry for several years, I can tell you that the extremely damaged homes remain untouched in the neighborhoods.  Investors are there to make money so the cheapest work and cheapest materials are put in the homes.  There are so many being auctioned and flipped that the investors are impatient and don't want to wait for building permits and have become very creative.  If you're interested in purchasing one of these homes, make sure you get a full inspection and check and double check that your home is 100% safe.  They look beautiful on the outside.  Do your homework!!!
Dec 4, 2010 6:16PM
Kudos to posting 85233 Phoenix and its surrounding areas are one of the nicest areas in the Country. I always loved visiting there, and as a matter of fact the wife and I just bought a home in Florience, Az. at the DelWeb Anthem sub division and for jamesj1970 to call people stupid well I really guess your the one because we only paid $88,000 thousand for the house we bought less then half of what it once sold for. Now who's STUPID?
Dec 4, 2010 5:51PM
I live in a small village in Ohio. Low property taxes, great people, fantastic homes. Walk to everything I need to get to. Big box stores are 30 plus miles away, so one needs to plan their shopping.
Born in Texas, lived in AZ for many years, not able to find work, so moved back to TX.  Love it, love to be back "home" - people are incredible, and was able to find work right away!  God Bless Texas!!
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